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Feb 27 2006

emergent west michigan

Published by Andre Daley under emerging church

conversation wednesday

Begins: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 at 10:00 AM

Ends: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 at 12:00 PM

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Location:

the bite

151 Ottawa Ave NW

Grand Rapids, MI

Link: Emergent West Michigan

a connecting point for conversation among people who are interested and invested in emerging edges of the Church. second http://www.watersedge.tv/ewm/ewm-cw-mar.gif
Wednesday of each month from 10:30rom 10:30
English: Contemporary English Version (1999) - CEV

am-Noon.
The Bite. Pearl at Ottawa.

topic: Towards a Generous Orthopraxis

A few years ago pastor, theologian and author, Brian McLaren challenged us to broaden our thinking about what it means to be a follower of Jesus in his book Generous Orthodoxy. Using the writings of theologian and author Howard Thurman (Jesus and the disinherited, Disciplines of the Spirit), Andre Daley will challenge us to broaden our way, acting on patterns of life that Jesus lived and taught as we move Towards a Generous Orthopraxis. Specifically what does it mean to “rehearse” Pentecost through the spiritual practice of reconciliation.

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Feb 27 2006

how long emergent? soon and very soon

Published by Andre Daley under diversity, emerging church

I remember learning the song soon and very soon when I was a little kid coming up in the church. I remember discovering the sentiment in it was used by white Christians to placate blacks during slavery telling them that their reward, their release from oppression,  would come soon, in the next life, at the end of eternity.

Now I hear it again from the emergent conversation. Scott McKnight has an interesting post about conversations he is having with emergent leaders types (all white and male with the exception of a spouse) at the National Pastors Conference. He reports from his conversation that they are serious about theology and the intersection of

All this group of folks care about is theology …..They’re really into the intersection of theology, culture, and praxis.

When someone (Rick of new life emerging) commented as I have that the conversation was lacking

“conversation” from minority voices– like African Americans or the feminist perspective. (Yes, I know how white dudes roll their eyes when confronted with this reality) This seems mainly like an evangelical group who is “high” on the next best thing.

He was tagged as griping. Can you say "shut down the conversation." Another commenter said this

I can understand the frustration with the seeming fruitlessness, the overemphasis on talking, the lack of diversity, etc. But things take time.

I remember hearing this just wait two years ago when I first started raising these questions. Soon and very soon. Now I’m not trying to take on Scott or any of the other emergent leaders he mentioned. They are clearly more theologically sophisticated than me. But as person of color trying to emerge into Christian practice beyond the modern and postmodern hoopla I am stuck with these questions:

How long before it isn’t griping to call the emergent conversation to account for its stated values?
How long before we see real evidence of the intersection between theology and praxis? I mean beyond candles and worship stuff.
How long before it is time to expect something more than talk?

I hear a rising chorus of Soon and very soon and I say

How long emergent? How long?

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Feb 27 2006

insignificant - Barna on emergent

Published by Andre Daley under emerging church

Chris Monroe over at Paradoxology has posted some of his lunch conversation with George Barna who said

the emergent movement (when compared with the "revolutionaries" he had been studying) was rather insignificant

Is it possible that after all the hype in the media and news coverage the impact of the emergent movement/conversation will be insignificant? If its true is there anything to be done about it? What’s the measure of significance that Barna uses? What’s the measure of significance that those of us in the emerging church conversation use? (fair to say that my measure is praxis)

These are some lingering questions I have from this post.

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