Nov 10 2007

unchristian

Several weeks ago I shared my thoughts about moving beyond a churchianity type of Christianity to practicing faith more focused on joining God in kingdom work. Now a recently released boo titled unchristian points to why this is so important.

The book has research about how the church is viewed in our culture by the prominent Christian researcher George Barna. It reinforces the title of Dan Kimball’s book They like Jesus but not the church. The book and its accompanying web site suggests that the church has an image problem.

 Here are are some snippets

One-fifth of all outsiders, regardless of age, admitted they “have had a bad experience in a church or with a Christian that gave them a negative image of Jesus Christ.” This represents nearly fifty million adult residents of this country-including about nine million young outsiders-who admit they have significant emotional or spiritual baggage from past experiences with so-called Christ followers.

Christians believe the primary reason outsiders have rejected Christ is that they cannot handle the rigorous standards of following Christ. There is a nuance here that allows Christians to feel like they’re better than other people, more capable of being holy and sinless.

Only one out of five outsiders said they perceive Christian churches as loving environments, places where people are unconditionally loved and accepted regardless of how they look or what they do. Surprisingly, fewer than half of churchgoers, including born-again Christians, felt strongly that their church demonstrates unconditional love.

Here are a couple thoughts I have. It is certainly not exhaustive but a starting point.

First I think we need to get over ourselves. We have to get beyond thinking that being the church is about those of us who are in the church. The church exists to serve God by serving the world. Jesus said it clearly he came to serve humanity (Matthew 20:28Matthew 20:28
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28 The Son of Man did not come to be a slave master, but a slave who will give his life to rescue x rescue: The Greek word often, though not always, means the payment of a price to free a slave or a prisoner. many people.

) so as his followers so should we.

Second spend less time trying to figure out who is in and  who is out and focus on doing the things Jesus said connects to him and to God. Like visiting the sick and imprisoned, feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless and clothing the naked. (Matthew 25:31-46Matthew 25:31-46
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The Final Judgment 31 a ; b . When the Son of Man comes in his glory with all of his angels, he will sit on his royal throne. 32 The people of all nations will be brought before him, and he will separate them, as shepherds separate their sheep from their goats. 33 He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 34 Then the king will say to those on his right, My father has blessed you! Come and receive the kingdom that was prepared for you before the world was created. 35 . When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat, and when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I was a stranger, you welcomed me, 36 and when I was naked, you gave me clothes to wear. When I was sick, you took care of me, and when I was in jail, you visited me. 37 Then the ones who pleased the Lord will ask, When did we give you something to eat or drink? 38 When did we welcome you as a stranger or give you clothes to wear 39 or visit you while you were sick or in jail? 40 The king will answer, Whenever you did it for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me. 41 Then the king will say to those on his left, Get away from me! You are under God's curse. Go into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels! 42 I was hungry, but you did not give me anything to eat, and I was thirsty, but you did not give me anything to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but you did not welcome me, and I was naked, but you did not give me any clothes to wear. I was sick and in jail, but you did not take care of me. 44 Then the people will ask, Lord, when did we fail to help you when you were hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in jail? 45 The king will say to them, Whenever you failed to help any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you failed to do it for me. 46 . Then Jesus said, Those people will be punished forever. But the ones who pleased God will have eternal life.

) Basically being their for the outsiders of our world.

Finally I think we need try to become like Jesus. A middle eastern man who lives a simple live was always working to deepen his connection to God and live out the scriptures. You see I think many in the church have become good a seeing all the flaws in others that will prevent then from going to heaven but we aren’t paying attention to what God is calling us to be as followers of Jesus. Not judges but followers. A recent talk I did at a public forum has gotten me a letter that suggest I am misguided at best and pagan at worst because I practice yoga and we have setup prayer labyrinths.

I wonder where in the scriptures does it say don’t practice yoga that focused our hearts, bodies and spirit on following Jesus or set up prayer labyrinth that deepen our relationship with Jesus our Saviour? However Jesus did tell his followers to leave alone anyone who proclaim the good news of God’s love in his name. (Mark 9:38-41Mark 9:38-41
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For or against Jesus 38 John said, Teacher, we saw a man using your name to force demons out of people. But he wasn't one of us, and we told him to stop. 39 Jesus said to his disciples: Don't stop him! No one who works miracles in my name will soon turn and say something bad about me. 40 ; . Anyone who isn't against us is for us. 41 . And anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name, just because you belong to me, will surely be rewarded.

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) That is the difference between being christian and unchristian. What do you think

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Oct 30 2007

emerging church forum postscript

Well I don’t know how I represented the emerging/post-emergent/missional world view at the Baker forum two weeks ago. It was fun to hear the thoughts of the other participants all of whom I know; including my friend Steve Argue, who argued articulately for the need of the church to look again at how we practice what we preach. A colleague John Frye, who spoke with some pastoral compassion about the important contribution of the emerging church to the church. And Michael Wittmer who was brilliant in raising an appropriate cautionary question about what we do believe. I spoke about my experience with emergent and what is means to be embracing missional values pastoring an urban emerging church. I talked about the false dichotomy between belonging and believing. orthodoxy and orthopraxis, and the lack of diversity in the conversation. It was cool to have a recently connected couple from Mosaic Life there. The moderator Sarah Cunningham did a great job guiding the conversation.

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One the one hand the folks at Baker thought it went well. (thanks for the pics guys). On the other hand someone who attended, warned a student working with me that they should careful working with me with me because I do yoga. I don’t know if much changed as a result I only received one letter about what I said I supposed there could have been more. The strangest thing was the one person who came up to afterward to tell me that he had friends who were Muslim and Indian who were good people but they were lost. I’m not sure why he thought that was important to tell me but so be it.

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Oct 30 2007

yoga and Christianity don’t mix?

So for about three to four years (intentionally for about the last two years) now I have been practicing yoga. I got into it because I was looking for something to help with my chronic back pain (caused by my scoliosis). After some frustrating days I discovered that practicing yoga helped relieve my lower back pain. In fact I am now pretty much pain free in my lower back. However there were two unanticipated benefits.

  1. I lost weight (30 pounds in fact)
  2. Yoga helped me to center my mind in a way that allowed me to better connect with God.

Now most everyone who is a regular part of my church Mosaic Life knows I practice yoga. But recently with the launch of our new ministry Awaken: contemplative living 24/7 I decided to pursue training to teach yoga as my contribution to that ministry. So I got level one teacher training from yoga fit and I’m pursuing registered teaching training with Brooke Boone of Holy Yoga. Next month I will start teaching a free weekly yoga practice. I know there are some Christians who think that the two are incompatible (check out the video below.) But there is something powerful that happens when I bring my Christian spirituality to my yoga mat. Any other Christians yogis care to comment

yoga and christianity

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Oct 30 2007

a new voice in the conversation on diversity

Published by Andre Daley under conversations, diversity

For a new voice in the conversation check out the Inclusion Café a friend of mine, fellow Jesus follower and diversity trainer Steve Robbins has launched this site social/professional networking web site for those pursuing diversity and an end to racism and unintentional intolerance in a sector of society. 

I want to encourage those of us in the religion sector to check it out, sign up cross post your blog and get in the conversation with a wide range of people for other social sectors

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Oct 30 2007

race matters V here a noose there a noose every where a loose noose

Published by Andre Daley under conversations, diversity

This entry is part 4 of 8 in the series why race matters

OK everywhere you look it seems there are nooses being hung. First Jena then a long Island police station, then the door of a Columbia university professor. Note that two of these are in the north where it is suggested racism is long gone.  SO why aren’t more Christians talking it about. I don’t know but I know the church can’t be the church until we deal with this uniquely American sin.

 

 

 

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Oct 30 2007

john mellencamp sings out on Jena

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Oct 15 2007

Emerging Church: evaluating the conversation

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Baker Book House in Grand Rapids is sponsoring a forum on the emerging church this Thursday October 18th at 7 p.m.  The forum will have four topics with four presenters including me moderated by Sarah Cunningham, author of Dear Church, Letters from a Disillusioned Generation
The topics are:
Topic: What is the Emerging Church?
Steve Argue is founder of Intersect Community, a ministry for training and coaching emerging leaders globally. He is the Executive Director of the Contextual Learning Center of Grand Rapids Theological Seminary, where he teaches. He is a doctoral student at Michigan State University, having completed his MDiv at Trinity International University. 

Topic: A Friendly Critique of the Emerging Church
Michael Wittmer serves as Associate Professor of Systematic and Historical Theology at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary where directs the Center for Christian Worldview. Michael holds a Ph.D. from Calvin Theological Seminary and is author of Heaven is a Place on Earth.


Topic: The Emerging Church and Urban Communities
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Topic: The Emerging Conversation is Good for the Church.
John Frye. Pastor of Fellowship Evangelical Covenant Church, Hudsonville, MI.

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Sep 20 2007

why race still matters and trumps everything in emerging/missional conversation

Published by Andre Daley under conversations

This entry is part 3 of 8 in the series why race matters

mn_jena_rally_11.jpgJena sixIf you haven’t heard about the Jena six don’t be surprised. Until today when thousands marched to protest the treatment of six back youth by the justice system in the south there was scant  coverage of the six black students plight and not much talk if any of it in the Christian community.

There are many emergent conversations going on, was shared in the latest Emergent newsletter.

 

The first is on September 20: “Emerging Critiques of Evangelicalism.” ; and the second is on September 27: “Missional: Has It been Shrinkwrapped, Too?” Read about them both here. The other event is hosted by Zondervan, around the book Listening to the Beliefs of the Emerging Church. It’s called Emergence 2007, and it’s taking place in Austin, TX on October 19-20. Check it out.

And now to the business at hand: Recently, we’ve released the second book in the emersion books line that we produce with Baker Books. It’s called Justice in the Burbs, and it’s written by the husband-and-wife team of Will and Lisa Sampson. 

Many in the emerging, traditional and missional churches debate theology, but missing from the conversation is a key component of God’s reign and Jesus mission, justice. The injustice of racism in this country is readily and easily ignored by most of those who seek to initiate new ways of practicing the Christian faith. Some like me who saw great potential this effort to re-imagine faith run the risk of being co-opted into silence on the issue so that we can be apart of the “bigger” conversation. I say no more. We cannot talk about re-imagining faith without talking about justice for the oppressed, this is part of what Jesus stated as his mission in Luke 4. We cannot talk about justice for all (in the south, north, city and burbs) without dealing with the injustice racism as it is expressed in this country. We cannot talk about a generous orthodoxy that is not partnered with a just and generous orthopraxis.

Dr. King (quoting the prophet Amos) called for Justice to roll down like a river (24 But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream! Amos 5:24Amos 5:24
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24 But let justice and fairness flow like a river that never runs dry.

(NIV) )

The NLT reading of this passage suggests that this justice is what leads to right living.

I colleague sent me this prayer request from his son.

My son Caleb, age 14, has asked that we  pray for this protest tomorrow that it be peaceful and that we pray that our  churches and schools, will continue to do their part to end racism in America.  Tomorrow his entire school in SF will join in the protest by having  conversations and wearing black. You might have heard conflicting reports of  what actually happened in Jena, here’s what I have been able to piece together  from several sources:

Here is what I think is at stake for the church in all its expressions

Again the thing that captured my attention is  that our youth, young men and women of all ethnicities are upset from High  School to Colleges all over the country, yet this news didn’t even make the TV  tonight! Also, upon reading the blogs I am impressed with the conviction and  perspective of today’s youth, they don’t want to accept this disease in  America anymore and many, many are very articulate about their angst. It was  the youth all over the nation through blogs and text messaging and other uses  of technology where the initial concept of a protest began and organization  started to take shape, albeit others are now stepping in to do the ‘real’  organizing.

If the church remains silent in the face of the continued evidence of the destructive results of racism for all people in and out of the church we are irrelevant to these young people and others who will look elsewhere for the justice that NT Wright say we innately know should be a part of how we live and love.

There is more to say on this but I will save that for later. SO the question I have on my poll for the last year remains. CAN the church emerge into a re-imagined faith without dealing with racism

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May 31 2007

Faith in Public Life Media Workshop

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Today at the Faith In Public Life Training Institute we are talking about the media and how to effective get a clear concise message out in the media.

We have been asked to practice how we communicate our message and will be recording a mock interview.


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May 30 2007

blogging about blogging at faith in public life training institute

Published by Andre Daley under conversations

Right now we are in a workshop at the faith in life training institute on blogging in the faith sector of the blogosphere. There are a couple folks talking about progressive faith blogs or the lack thereof and the wide open space in the blogosphere for more blogs in this sector.

Here is a list of the blogs they showed us not all are faith blogs just examples of wel read blogs

www.firedoglake.com

www.dailykos.com

www.streetprophets.com

www.wideopenthinking.org

www.chuckcurrie.blogs.com

www.faithfullyliberal.com

www.faithfulamerica.org

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